tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11789157.post7139499896096912197..comments2024-02-14T05:39:29.497-06:00Comments on HELL BURNS: MOVIES: "THE 13TH DAY" (OUR LADY OF FATIMA)Sr. Helena Burns, fsphttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09196121481873845379noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11789157.post-53097496399474273972010-05-21T21:28:18.560-05:002010-05-21T21:28:18.560-05:00IN THIS ARTICLE (http://www.mostholyfamilymonaster...IN THIS ARTICLE (http://www.mostholyfamilymonastery.com/old.html):<br /><br /> <br /><br />-FACT #1: POPE PIUS XII CONSECRATED RUSSIA TO THE IMMACULATE HEART OF MARY - POPE PIUS XII CONSECRATED NOT THE WORLD, BUT SPECIFICALLY RUSSIA, ON JULY 7, 1952<br /><br />-FACT #2: WHAT OUR LADY MEANS BY THE CONVERSION OF RUSSIA – THE STRIKING EVIDENCE<br /><br />-THIS POSITION IS FURTHER SUBSTANTIATED BY CONSIDERING PORTUGAL – “THE SHOWCASE OF OUR LADY”<br /><br />-THIS POSITION IS FURTHER SUBSTANTIATED BY SR. LUCY’S SUMMARY OF THE TUY VISION<br /><br />-“THE GOOD WILL BE MARTYRED” AND “VARIOUS NATIONS WILL BE ANNIHILATED” ARE PROPHECIES THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN FULFILLED<br /><br />-WHAT RUSSIA WAS CONVERTED FROM – SNAPSHOTS OF THE SATANIC REGIME IN COMMUNIST RUSSIA<br /><br />-HE WILL DO THE CONSECRATION, BUT IT WILL BE “LATE”<br /><br />-OUR LADY’S WORDS REVEAL TO US THAT HER TRIUMPH IS NOT A UNIVERSAL TRIUMPH OR REIGN OF PEACE, BUT ONLY A “CERTAIN” PERIOD OF PEACE<br /><br />-THE CONVERSION OF RUSSIA =…<br /><br />-THE EVIDENCE<br /><br />-SOME LEFTOVER OBJECTIONS – AND SR. LUCY DIDN’T EVEN KNOW IF PIUS XII’S 1942 CONSECRATION OF THE WORLD WAS ACCEPTED IN HEAVEN<br /><br />-PART II: THE EVIDENCE EXPOSING THE IMPOSTOR SR. LUCY<br /><br />-THE FALSE MESSAGE OF “FR.” NICHOLAS GRUNEROur Lady of Fatima and the Message of Fatimahttp://www.mostholyfamilymonastery.com/fatima_mainpage.phpnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11789157.post-42309334343637217862010-04-04T09:52:46.104-05:002010-04-04T09:52:46.104-05:00You cannot reconcile any of it and God knows it...You cannot reconcile any of it and God knows it's not for want of trying. Souls falling into hell. Grace being the motivating factor for everything. Yet those hellbound will receive less grace than the supposed saved. It does not make sense that we suffer eternal hell for a few mere mortal years. That is what is never reconcilable. I believe there are realms where it can seem like eternity/age - the 'outer darkness' or 'Gehenna' - where we can suffer for justice sake. But not for ever and ever. Even Fatima talked of the young girl suffering 'till the end of the world'. She was fifteen years old. A mortal sin seems to be a complete and abject rejection of God. We'd need to have some real knowledge of God to reject God. And we don't really have that in this life of faith and hope. Only when the veil is torn. I read somewhere that Padre Pio 'mellowed' in his later years. That souls are given a final encounter with God before rejecting completely. Perhaps it's the 'judgement seat of Christ'. None of us know anything really. We just live by faith, in hope and hopefully love. If we are to die to self - we can't hope for heaven anyway :-) We should only desire God and the will of God whatever that is - even it is hell ? :-) Anything else is not death of self, is motivated by self love and will lead to loss. So confusing. ;-)<br /><br />KAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11789157.post-23778175961559853042010-03-09T01:06:29.581-06:002010-03-09T01:06:29.581-06:00K--I don't think it's the same actress. Of...K--I don't think it's the same actress. Of course, since apparitions of Our Lady--even tho' approved by the Church--are "private revelation" and not "public revelation" like the Scriptures, no one is obliged to believe in them. It is not necessary to believe in them for salvation. And Our Lady really doesn't say anything different from Jesus or the Gospels when she appears. Jesus told us several times about hell.<br />I think what's more problematic than showing little children visions of hell (children can handle the truth better than we think, sometimes), is when the children supposedly saw souls "falling like snowflakes into hell." The Church teaches that there is a hell, but has never taught that anyone is in hell, not even Judas. (Fulton Sheen converted Clare Booth Luce by assuring her of this fact!) So how do we reconcile these "souls falling into hell"? Everything is filtered throught the visionaries (words, images and understandings). I hope they are "wrong" about this!<br />I don't know that God asked them to do those particular penances. They were asked to do penance, but I think the kids got very creative, especially Jacinta--she was one tough little chick! You could read some of the Fatima books for more information.<br />We are not required to do bodily penance, but Jesus told us to "take up our cross and follow him." Penances (like during Lent now) will be different for all of us. What's best is prayer, fasting and almsgiving. Hope this helps!Sr. Helena Burns, fsphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09196121481873845379noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11789157.post-23992206923205530502010-02-26T16:37:08.562-06:002010-02-26T16:37:08.562-06:00I had seen the movie advertised and just saw it on...I had seen the movie advertised and just saw it on youtube. Someone uploaded it there. I was wondering. There is a girl in the movie who is pretty nasty to Lucia, always making mocking remarks and faces at her. The person who plays Our Lady in the apparition. Is it the same girl ? Something similar about the faces. Lovely little movie. I believe in Our Lady very much. I always had trouble with Fatima though. Why Mary would scare children with visions of hell and that God would ask them not to wear knotted ropes at night, only during the day. I can understand 'redemptive' suffering, but am not sure it's healthy to look for more suffering than life itself throws at all of us. <br /><br />Remarkable children nonetheless. Not saying I don't believe it. Just not sure. <br /><br />God bless<br /><br />KAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11789157.post-85096904248267928592009-11-23T22:29:43.410-06:002009-11-23T22:29:43.410-06:00Orlando! I hope you will enjoy it as much as I did...Orlando! I hope you will enjoy it as much as I did. That's wonderful about your pilgrimage on the 13th of all days! United in prayer,<br />Sr. HelenaSr. Helena Burns, fsphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09196121481873845379noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11789157.post-29115564826140689772009-11-23T21:50:38.480-06:002009-11-23T21:50:38.480-06:00I cannot wait to see the movie. Acutally, I order...I cannot wait to see the movie. Acutally, I ordered a DVD in time to show it to a group of pilgrims who are going to the National Cathedral of the Immaculate Conception on December 13, 2009. We meet on the 13th of each month to pray all the mysteries of the Rosary for the Priest and the Church -cenacle. So it was reallly a blessing and a sign from God -that we all need to pray the Rosary for the salvation of souls- that this movie about Our Lady's apparition in fatima i also called the 13th. <br /><br />God bless you sister,<br /><br />OrlandoUnknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18338442311189025857noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11789157.post-18051689803405301932009-11-07T22:38:37.825-06:002009-11-07T22:38:37.825-06:00Hey Fr. Dan! I think I met you in Peoria! Yes--I t...Hey Fr. Dan! I think I met you in Peoria! Yes--I think you'll like the film!Sr. Helena Burns, fsphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09196121481873845379noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11789157.post-42982148234189293532009-11-04T18:54:36.390-06:002009-11-04T18:54:36.390-06:00Dear Sr. Hellen, This is Fr. Dan Maurer, C.J.D. of...Dear Sr. Hellen, This is Fr. Dan Maurer, C.J.D. of the above mentioned "Mary Mother of God Mission Society" here in Vladivostok, Russia. Thank you for mentioning our mission work and providing a link to our mission website. Thanks also for your detailed review of the movie, "The 13th Day". I was sceptical about it but now I will make sure to watch it. God bless you in your work in Catholic media. Sincerely yours in Christ, Fr. Dan MaurerFr. Dan Maurer, C.J.D.http://www.vladmission.orgnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11789157.post-35512352457567887452009-11-04T02:36:43.915-06:002009-11-04T02:36:43.915-06:00Sister is absolutely correct about the consecratio...Sister is absolutely correct about the consecration. JP II made it, and Sister Lucy clearly stated his consecration was correct and accepted by Heaven. The fall of the Berlin wall was a start. Russia obviously still has many problems, but the affects of all those decades of atheist Communism are not going to disappear just because of the consecration. Like an individual's own conversion, the conversion of such a devastated country takes time. Yet, there are many good signs of conversion going on in Russia. So lets keep praying for them.Tonynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11789157.post-39551757374130999352009-11-02T21:16:05.388-06:002009-11-02T21:16:05.388-06:00But Sr. Lucia said JP2G's 1984 consecration wa...But Sr. Lucia said JP2G's 1984 consecration was fulfillment. But I agree--Russia needs prayers still!Sr. Helena Burns, fsphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09196121481873845379noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11789157.post-5504371862756464952009-11-02T19:54:51.606-06:002009-11-02T19:54:51.606-06:00Unfortunately, we are still awaiting the consecrat...Unfortunately, we are still awaiting the consecration of Russia and obviously Russia has not been converted as it is still communist, is self-destructing through contraception and abortion and prohibits the growth of the Catholic Church there. The consecration of the world is not sufficient.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com